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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Those of you who use an ‘industrial size’ compressor… do you drain your compressor daily? Or…how do you work that? I really hate my new compressor….it’s almost like a huge diagphram type compressor…..it’s so damn loud. I’m thinking about returning it. Vern
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Thanks Steve….yes thank you! I need someone who understands what I mean when I say "L O U D"! Damn…you do it better. Could you scream for me again…I think I hurt my throat….hehe. All kiddin aside…I’m thinking about trying to get my money back from Sams Club. This is the reason for my question….I hate to turn my compressor on and have it scream to build up internal pressure from 0 psi to 155 psi. Damn…that’s a long screaming wait. I literally have to walk out of the garage while it boots up (so to speak). Thanks Vern – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com Newsgroups: alt.airbrush.art That is one of many problums with the Oil less new designs. They just SCREAM. I won’t have one. Bought one for a fiilm I was doing in the east YEARS ago .. it was from SEARS. compressed just swell… sounded like a missle shoot to MARS. I just couldn’t take it. Junked that one and bought a " old ": pumper from a second hand store. I lived with the " chunketa – pumputa " a lot better than the " WHIRRRRRLLEESCREAMMME .. STOP .. ONCE MORE WHIRRRRRLLEESCREAMMME and on and on." Steve E. I drain all my compressors once a week. Lest I haven’t been running them. I also change the Oil in them once a year .. The gas one’s I change oil in the motor every 6 months. the compressor once a year. Those of you who use an ‘industrial size’ compressor… do you drain your compressor daily? Or…how do you work that? I really hate my new compressor….it’s almost like a huge diagphram type compressor…..it’s so damn loud. I’m thinking about returning it. Vern
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Steve….yes thank you! I need someone who understands what I mean when I say "L O U D"! Damn…you do it better. Could you scream for me again…I think I hurt my throat….hehe. All kiddin aside…I’m thinking about trying to get my money back from Sams Club. This is the reason for my question….I hate to turn my compressor on and have it scream to build up internal pressure from 0 psi to 155 psi. Damn…that’s a long screaming wait. I literally have to walk out of the garage while it boots up (so to speak). Thanks Vern Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com Newsgroups: alt.airbrush.art That is one of many problums with the Oil less new designs. They just SCREAM. I won’t have one. Bought one for a fiilm I was doing in the east YEARS ago .. it was from SEARS. compressed just swell… sounded like a missle shoot to MARS. I just couldn’t take it. Junked that one and bought a " old ": pumper from a second hand store. I lived with the " chunketa – pumputa " a lot better than the " WHIRRRRRLLEESCREAMMME .. STOP .. ONCE MORE WHIRRRRRLLEESCREAMMME and on and on." Steve E. I drain all my compressors once a week. Lest I haven’t been running them. I also change the Oil in them once a year .. The gas one’s I change oil in the motor every 6 months. the compressor once a year. Those of you who use an ‘industrial size’ compressor… do you drain your compressor daily? Or…how do you work that? I really hate my new compressor….it’s almost like a huge diagphram type compressor…..it’s so damn loud. I’m thinking about returning it. Vern
I don’t think anyone drains the air from the tank unless they plan to leave it unused for an extend period of time. That being months. Doug
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Those of you who use an ‘industrial size’ compressor… do you drain your compressor daily? Or…how do you work that? I really hate my new compressor….it’s almost like a huge diagphram type compressor…..it’s so damn loud. I’m thinking about returning it. Vern
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It’s a "coleman"…yes like lantern….hehe believe it or not. Damn thing’s loud! I mean I would have to yell over the sound of it to talk to you if you were standing next to me, and we both were standing next to it. Damn…. Hmmm…that room sounds great. …. Hehe…I wish I could just change some items on my old compressor… that was a real good one by Speedaire. But the damn….tank has rust holes in it…you know how dangerous that can be. Note: We need to see more airbrush posts on here…all I see lately is this spam porn crap. On a lighter note….. Aloha All….yes….from the islands. Vern – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: Comcast Online Newsgroups: alt.airbrush.art "Vern Enriques" wrote… Those of you who use an ‘industrial size’ compressor… do you drain your compressor daily? Or…how do you work that? I installed an automatic tank drain. All of my piping branches also have manual drains that I drain daily or depending on how humid it is and how much use it gets I may drain them a couple times a day. Keep in mind I’m using my compressor for air tools, sandblasting, paint guns and other assorted body work goodies. I really hate my new compressor….it’s almost like a huge diagphram type compressor…..it’s so damn loud. Mine is loud but I’ve gotten used to it and I built a small closet like room for it so that helped quite a bit. I’m thinking about returning it. What kind is it? Mine has served me well over the years but in the past month I’ve had to replace almost everything except the tank and the motor. It’s paid for itself though, many times over. — hawgeye www.hawgeye.com www.stealer-dealer.com
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155psi is probably the factory set point on the pressure switch for when the compressor motor turns off once the pressure in the tank reaches that point. Once you start removing air from the tank, the pressure in the tank will drop. When the tank pressure drops to 130psi (for example) then the motor will kick on and add air to the tank until it reaches 155 psi then it turns off again. These are factory settings on the pressure switch. Some are adjustable and some aren’t. Adjusting it will not necessarily make it run more or less. If you only require 100 psi at your airbrush then put a regulator in the supply line (as close to the airbrush as possible). This will decrease the amount of air volume being removed from the tank therefore increasing the time between on/off cycles of the compressor. If you could set the cut-in setting (the point when the motor turns on) lower and keep the cut-out setting (the point where the motor turns off) high then the compressor wouldn’t turn on as often but it would run longer when it does turn on and this would cause more heat creating more water in the tank. Setting both points lower won’t change anything because you’re still pulling the same amount of air from the tank regardless of what the cut-in/cut-out points are. Unless those points were below what your demand is. Then the compressor would run continuously. The only real way to decrease how often the compressor cycles is to lower your air requirement (with regulator) and/or increase your air supply volume(bigger tank). The later not being very practical in most cases. — hawgeye www.hawgeye.com www.stealer-dealer.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Vern Enriques" wrote… Hey Ken…..yeah I really don’t need 155 psi for sure…but there’s a sign on it saying not to touch the factory setting…am I misreading the thing? I would love to drop it down some….then it would shut down sooner… It’s SOOOO loud. Vern A question, do you really need 155psi??? Why not set the unit down a bit to say 90-120 psi?
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A question, do you really need 155psi??? Why not set the unit down a bit to say 90-120 psi? Yes, you should drain it often…moisture trap every day and the compressor at least once a week…. I drain my moisture trap when I start the compressor up in the morning. I drain the tank at the end of the day, just kill the power, open the drain and leave. When you are ready to use it again, close the tap, fire it up, drain the moisture trap and you are ready to make magic. Ken
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"Vern Enriques" wrote… Those of you who use an ‘industrial size’ compressor… do you drain your compressor daily? Or…how do you work that?
I installed an automatic tank drain. All of my piping branches also have manual drains that I drain daily or depending on how humid it is and how much use it gets I may drain them a couple times a day. Keep in mind I’m using my compressor for air tools, sandblasting, paint guns and other assorted body work goodies. I really hate my new compressor….it’s almost like a huge diagphram type compressor…..it’s so damn loud.
Mine is loud but I’ve gotten used to it and I built a small closet like room for it so that helped quite a bit. I’m thinking about returning it.
What kind is it? Mine has served me well over the years but in the past month I’ve had to replace almost everything except the tank and the motor. It’s paid for itself though, many times over. — hawgeye www.hawgeye.com www.stealer-dealer.com
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Hey Ken…..yeah I really don’t need 155 psi for sure…but there’s a sign on it saying not to touch the factory setting…am I misreading the thing? I would love to drop it down some….then it would shut down sooner… It’s SOOOO loud. Vern – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: http://groups.google.com Newsgroups: alt.airbrush.art A question, do you really need 155psi??? Why not set the unit down a bit to say 90-120 psi? Yes, you should drain it often…moisture trap every day and the compressor at least once a week…. I drain my moisture trap when I start the compressor up in the morning. I drain the tank at the end of the day, just kill the power, open the drain and leave. When you are ready to use it again, close the tap, fire it up, drain the moisture trap and you are ready to make magic. Ken
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That is one of many problums with the Oil less new designs. They just SCREAM. I won’t have one. Bought one for a fiilm I was doing in the east YEARS ago .. it was from SEARS. compressed just swell… sounded like a missle shoot to MARS. I just couldn’t take it. Junked that one and bought a " old ": pumper from a second hand store. I lived with the " chunketa – pumputa " a lot better than the " WHIRRRRRLLEESCREAMMME .. STOP .. ONCE MORE WHIRRRRRLLEESCREAMMME and on and on." Steve E. I drain all my compressors once a week. Lest I haven’t been running them. I also change the Oil in them once a year .. The gas one’s I change oil in the motor every 6 months. the compressor once a year. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Those of you who use an ‘industrial size’ compressor… do you drain your compressor daily? Or…how do you work that? I really hate my new compressor….it’s almost like a huge diagphram type compressor…..it’s so damn loud. I’m thinking about returning it. Vern
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Hey Vern, I set them down all the time, but you need to be careful as the pressures are set at the factory…The more expensive units usually have a twin spring setup in the pressure box. If you are not sure, take it to a professional as it’s a 20 minute job. If it’s a direct drive, these units really do quite down by lowering the pressure and slowing down the motor…again a simple job for a pro. If you want to do it, MAKE SURE THE POWER IS OFF and UN PLUG IT!!! the switch boxes are usually HOT! Setting the pressure demands down, saves wear and tear on the electric motor as there is no need to drive the compressor pump so high. The higher the pressure, the harder the motor works. I’ve dropped down a lot of Jun Airs as many were designed for dental work and run up to 140 psi (TC 50 motors). I have one in my shop I just got yesterday, and I’ll drop down to 90 max and kick in at 70 as the guy does the odd shirt from time to time. Doing this can extend the life of the electric motor, but remember the manufacturer designed the unit to operate at 155psi so if you can live with the noise, you’ll still be fine. Ken
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Thanks for the insight hawgeye……that makes a hell of a lot of sense. Actually this is how I have it set up. I wish I could add a larger tank….but probably not, as if I had the way to do that…I would have kept my old parts…because they are all good. That’s the reason I got a new compressor is because my old compressor tank rusted through. But now I can decrease my requirement using a regulator…I have one at the gun so that should do it. Thanks again. Vern – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: Comcast Online Newsgroups: alt.airbrush.art The only real way to decrease how often the compressor cycles is to lower your air requirement (with regulator) and/or increase your air supply volume(bigger tank). The later not being very practical in most cases. — hawgeye www.hawgeye.com www.stealer-dealer.com "Vern Enriques" wrote… Hey Ken…..yeah I really don’t need 155 psi for sure…but there’s a sign on it saying not to touch the factory setting…am I misreading the thing? I would love to drop it down some….then it would shut down sooner… It’s SOOOO loud. Vern A question, do you really need 155psi??? Why not set the unit down a bit to say 90-120 psi?
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