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First, are there any books specifically about preparation of various surfaces? Ideally, this would be specific to airbrush but I’ll take what I can get. Second, does anyone know anything about using Aluminum as a painting surface? I’ve seen mention of it as a painting surface for illustration in place of "illustration board" and not as in auto/cycle customizing. My first thought was that it would be ideal for rendering metallic or liquid subject matter but maybe I’m wrong. Lastly, I’ve seen a lot of reference to a type of board called CS10. The impression I get is that this stuff is kind of the be all and end all for detailed airbrush work. Is that correct? Does Frisk make this stuff? When I asked at Pearl Paint for it, they’d never heard of it. Thanks, Philfthy
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"Philfthy McSkuzzo" wrote… First, are there any books specifically about preparation of various surfaces? Ideally, this would be specific to airbrush but I’ll take what I can get.
Not aware of any books that cover ever surface, that would be a big book. However you could break it down into general catagories. Textiles (t-shirts, leather and other porous materials), canvas (illistration board or other similar surfaces), plastics, and metallic surfaces. I’m sure there are more and you could break these down even further. Second, does anyone know anything about using Aluminum as a painting surface? I’ve seen mention of it as a painting surface for illustration in place of "illustration board" and not as in auto/cycle customizing. My first thought was that it would be ideal for rendering metallic or liquid subject matter but maybe I’m wrong.
Even though it’s not used as an auto/cycle circumstance you still need to treat it as such. Depending on the texture of the aluminum, there are certain preps you have to take to make sure the paint will stick and not all paints will work. Also aluminum will oxidize so any areas left bare net to be clear coated or sealed. Lastly, I’ve seen a lot of reference to a type of board called CS10. The impression I get is that this stuff is kind of the be all and end all for detailed airbrush work. Is that correct? Does Frisk make this stuff? When I asked at Pearl Paint for it, they’d never heard of it.
Can’t help you on that one but I’d be interested in seeing what you find out. — hawgeye AH96 BS98 SENS CtNs www.hawgeye.com
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I’d forget aluminum and use MDF (Medium Density Fibreboard). It’s stable, and should last forever if properly prepped. D
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CS10 is made by Frisk. It’s surface is not really paper but a clay like surface. When you scratch it back it comes off like a powder. Personally I use a board made by Schoellershammer (grade 4G) . It’s similar to CS10 but cheaper. Masking is fine on CS10. Check out work by Alberto Ponno. He paints very detailed airbrush paintings onto aluminium but uses urethane paints. Here’s a couple of links that may be useful. http://www.coastairbrush.com/pages/91.html for CS10 http://www.medea-artool.com/artool/archives/2000AUG-AIRMAG/racingreal… ingrealism.htm for Ponno’s artwork. Regards, Paul. — The Pinup Art of Paul Corfield www.paulcorfield.com
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cs 10 is plain old illustration board, you can buy at any art supply, cs 10 is just the how they list it in most catalougues maddmaxx – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Philfthy McSkuzzo" wrote… First, are there any books specifically about preparation of various surfaces? Ideally, this would be specific to airbrush but I’ll take what I can get. Not aware of any books that cover ever surface, that would be a big book. However you could break it down into general catagories. Textiles (t-shirts, leather and other porous materials), canvas (illistration board or other similar surfaces), plastics, and metallic surfaces. I’m sure there are more and you could break these down even further. Second, does anyone know anything about using Aluminum as a painting surface? I’ve seen mention of it as a painting surface for illustration in place of "illustration board" and not as in auto/cycle customizing. My first thought was that it would be ideal for rendering metallic or liquid subject matter but maybe I’m wrong. Even though it’s not used as an auto/cycle circumstance you still need to treat it as such. Depending on the texture of the aluminum, there are certain preps you have to take to make sure the paint will stick and not all paints will work. Also aluminum will oxidize so any areas left bare net to be clear coated or sealed. Lastly, I’ve seen a lot of reference to a type of board called CS10. The impression I get is that this stuff is kind of the be all and end all for detailed airbrush work. Is that correct? Does Frisk make this stuff? When I asked at Pearl Paint for it, they’d never heard of it. Can’t help you on that one but I’d be interested in seeing what you find out. — hawgeye AH96 BS98 SENS CtNs www.hawgeye.com
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Dear Philfthy, I’ve tried aluminum with success, but as hawgeye says, you have to prepare it and it needs to be sealed when finished so it will not oxidize. Frisk CS 10 is a hard surface illustration board made for airbrush work. It’s the only board I will use. I sure Paul is mistaken about the surface, as it is not clay, but extremely hard, which allows you to use about any masking material you could think of, plus it will handle the use of erasers, scalpels pretty well. I think Paul is talking about scratch board like Canson Grattage Board. Because of the high cost process to make CS 10 board, it is no longer being produced (also canson studio artic white board is gone). All stocks being sold now are what you can find on the store shelves or warehouse floor. The manufacturer said, they will produce more if they receive enough orders in the future to justify the production costs. They still make the CS 2 illustration board. We bought five cases for ourselves…but it’s mine….all mine…greed is good…LOL Regards, Ken www.ausairbrush.com
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