Air Brushing – Air Brush

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binaries take up a lot of space and for this reason any ISP carrying newsgroups "text only" MUST delete the binaries.

<snipped This I presume is the reason I can’t get to see posted binaries then….my ISP is obviously more aware of the problems arising than most users are, hence the post chopping….It all makes sense now. IYO tho’ is Usenet under fire because of bandwidth?   MMMmmm My guess is that it’s become one of the main hiding places for sicko’s and Paedophiles etc etc. War against these people is wholeheartedly justified , but by killin’ Usenet all this will do is spoil it for the 99% of ‘normal’ decent folk and just push the sicko bandits into another more widely used area of the net, I.E chat rooms, forums etc. It’s a scary world out there for sure but to close the Usenet because of HTML posting and Binaries I doubt that’s the reason at all…Just my gut feeling..Call it an artist’s intuition. Interesting… Wenz

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Yahoo groups was so easy it still took a few goes to see your first post if I remember rightly. — The Pinup Art of Paul Corfield      www.paulcorfield.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok , It seems that some posts are sent onto this NG containing Binaries (posts containing pictures) .This is fine if the recipients servers allow these posts to get through…My server for one doesn’t allow these posts to come through…Ok, Ok I guess now some of you are saying "well tuff titties to you then Wenz!"  My guess tho’ is that If ‘My’ server doesn’t allow these posts then there must be ‘many others’ who also don’t get to see these posts…"So what do you suggest then Wenz"  I hear you saying. Well I suggest all those wanting to share pictures of their work set up a ‘Yahoo Briefcase’ to upload their pictures for EVERYONE to see, the process is sooo simple even I managed it. That way we can all get to see and participate in the discussions that follow..Only seems fair don’t you think? Your comments or ideas appreciated.. Wenz I often read the group through Google and you can’t see binaries there either. Also, as the group does not contain the word "binaries" in the title, they shouldn’t be posted. Every web server administrator has the ability to block any groups which take up more than a certain amount of bandwidth so, by posting more and more pictures, less and less web servers will carry the group. The best way of getting your work seen without affecting the group’s circulation is to upload it to your own webspace and post a direct link to it instead. That also enables all those who can’t see images posted to the group anyway can then access them. Couldn’t be simpler. Grant www.granthood.co.uk www.paulsautos.plus.com — All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Maybe airbrushing isn’t the only thing I can teach you. HTML is my second language.

<ASTONISHEDReally?</ASTONISHED <G – no, that’s not a tag… Peter

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Ok , It seems that some posts are sent onto this NG containing Binaries (posts containing pictures) .This is fine if the recipients servers allow these posts to get through…My server for one doesn’t allow these posts to come through…Ok, Ok I guess now some of you are saying "well tuff titties to you then Wenz!"  My guess tho’ is that If ‘My’ server doesn’t allow these posts then there must be ‘many others’ who also don’t get to see these posts…"So what do you suggest then Wenz"  I hear you saying. Well I suggest all those wanting to share pictures of their work set up a ‘Yahoo Briefcase’ to upload their pictures for EVERYONE to see, the process is sooo simple even I managed it. That way we can all get to see and participate in the discussions that follow..Only seems fair don’t you think? Your comments or ideas appreciated.. Wenz

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Ah Vern, Maybe airbrushing isn’t the only thing I can teach you. HTML is my second language. — The Pinup Art of Paul Corfield      www.paulcorfield.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t think it’s that easy. I am not too HTML literate..I tried to do a web page, and it’s not all that simple. I even abandoned my web page because of it, it’s floating somewhere out in web lingo….I even forgot my own web page address. hmmmm….does that tell you something? that was a few years ago though, perhaps it’s gotten easier with software that do it automatically, but I’m really don’t want to purchase software only to do that. Then again I’m not paying someone to create and maintain a webpage for me as well. My server seems to allow binaries to come through, luckily for me. Though I can see everyone else’ point in the matter. If there are simpler ways, I’d like to hear about it. Aloha Vern Organization: ntlworld News Service Newsgroups: alt.airbrush.art Yahoo groups was so easy it still took a few goes to see your first post if I remember rightly. — The Pinup Art of Paul Corfield www.paulcorfield.com Ok , It seems that some posts are sent onto this NG containing Binaries (posts containing pictures) .This is fine if the recipients servers allow these posts to get through…My server for one doesn’t allow these posts to come through…Ok, Ok I guess now some of you are saying "well tuff titties to you then Wenz!" My guess tho’ is that If ‘My’ server doesn’t allow these posts then there must be ‘many others’ who also don’t get to see these posts…"So what do you suggest then Wenz"  I hear you saying. Well I suggest all those wanting to share pictures of their work set up a ‘Yahoo Briefcase’ to upload their pictures for EVERYONE to see, the process is sooo simple even I managed it. That way we can all get to see and participate in the discussions that follow..Only seems fair don’t you think? Your comments or ideas appreciated.. Wenz I often read the group through Google and you can’t see binaries there either. Also, as the group does not contain the word "binaries" in the title, they shouldn’t be posted. Every web server administrator has the ability to block any groups which take up more than a certain amount of bandwidth so, by posting more and more pictures, less and less web servers will carry the group. The best way of getting your work seen without affecting the group’s circulation is to upload it to your own webspace and post a direct link to it instead. That also enables all those who can’t see images posted to the group anyway can then access them. Couldn’t be simpler. Grant www.granthood.co.uk www.paulsautos.plus.com — All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

— Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok , It seems that some posts are sent onto this NG containing Binaries (posts containing pictures) .This is fine if the recipients servers allow these posts to get through…My server for one doesn’t allow these posts to come through…Ok, Ok I guess now some of you are saying "well tuff titties to you then Wenz!"  My guess tho’ is that If ‘My’ server doesn’t allow these posts then there must be ‘many others’ who also don’t get to see these posts…"So what do you suggest then Wenz"  I hear you saying. Well I suggest all those wanting to share pictures of their work set up a ‘Yahoo Briefcase’ to upload their pictures for EVERYONE to see, the process is sooo simple even I managed it. That way we can all get to see and participate in the discussions that follow..Only seems fair don’t you think? Your comments or ideas appreciated.. Wenz

I often read the group through Google and you can’t see binaries there either. Also, as the group does not contain the word "binaries" in the title, they shouldn’t be posted. Every web server administrator has the ability to block any groups which take up more than a certain amount of bandwidth so, by posting more and more pictures, less and less web servers will carry the group. The best way of getting your work seen without affecting the group’s circulation is to upload it to your own webspace and post a direct link to it instead. That also enables all those who can’t see images posted to the group anyway can then access them. Couldn’t be simpler. Grant www.granthood.co.uk www.paulsautos.plus.com — All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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wrotg: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok , It seems that some posts are sent onto this NG containing Binaries (posts containing pictures) .This is fine if the recipients servers allow these posts to get through…My server for one doesn’t allow these posts to come through…Ok, Ok I guess now some of you are saying "well tuff titties to you then Wenz!"  My guess tho’ is that If ‘My’ server doesn’t allow these posts then there must be ‘many others’ who also don’t get to see these posts…"So what do you suggest then Wenz"  I hear you saying. Well I suggest all those wanting to share pictures of their work set up a ‘Yahoo Briefcase’ to upload their pictures for EVERYONE to see, the process is sooo simple even I managed it. That way we can all get to see and participate in the discussions that follow..Only seems fair don’t you think? Your comments or ideas appreciated.. Wenz

None of you in this group know me at all really, so when i tell you that really, i don’t mean anything by this, nor am i (may god forbid) in any way trying to moderate this group, you are just going to have to believe me. This newsgroup, in the Usenet parlance, is a "text only" group. This means what it says, text only. This does not lend itself to interpretation, or the occasional binary (picture) it is NOT a variable. There is good reason for this. Usenet is mostly self regulating, the rules are pretty clear and by and large we all follow them. Like all things though some people overstep the "mark" or just out and out abuse the system. I personally can think of seven people who i know fine well pay good money for an extremely slow dialup connection. Remember, this is worldwide guys, so people such as my friend in South Africa with his 33.000bps dialup connection (that is all he can get) sees the same stuff we see with our 1Mb cablemodem always on i_am_busy_emptying_the_internet type connections. What binaries really mean to these people, is that they cannot afford to learn, because they cannot afford the online time to download every last mortal bit of art, warez or pOnr somebody sees fit to post, because it is "cool". This is fundamental to the existance of Usenet, how many of you realise the concerted effort at present afoot to shut Usenet down really. The last thing we need to be doing is to aiding and abetting the powers that be in their quest. If we self regulate ourselves, we will survive, binaries take up a lot of space and for this reason any ISP carrying newsgroups "text only" MUST delete the binaries. The transfer of data is a costly business and the transfer of binaries the costliest of them all. One other thing, Usenet has also, traditionally been HTML free. You don’t have to comply with this, you can as Chris Naggy does, post your messages in HTML. The only snag to this though, is that people such as myself quite simply cannot see Chris’ posts, at all. He might as well not bother as far as people such as myself are concerned, we read text only, this also means no HTML. This too is something that some people don’t care about but i for one wouldn’t run HTML from Usenet postings on a Windaz box. That has to be one of the most sure fire ways of introducing one of the script virus’ to your machine i can think of. No this is not a set of rules, this is just knowlege i have gleaned from being around Usenet for some considerable time. tekkno. alt = Anarchists Lunatics Terrorists

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wrotg:

 This is fundamental to the existance of Usenet, how many of you realise the concerted effort at present afoot to shut Usenet down really. The last thing we need to be doing is to aiding and abetting the powers that be in their quest.

Tekkno- Please explain. I wasn’t aware of this "concerted effort." Philfthy alt = Anarchists Lunatics Terrorists

God bless us, one and all.

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LOL..point taken….u have a good memory for other peoples mistakes…you bugger! ;-P Though all said and done… it really is simple to set up a yahoo briefcase , I was just being particularly thick that night! In fact I feel particularly thick tonight too so I reckon I best sleep on it. Wenz

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yahoo groups was so easy it still took a few goes to see your first post if I remember rightly. — The Pinup Art of Paul Corfield      www.paulcorfield.com Ok , It seems that some posts are sent onto this NG containing Binaries (posts containing pictures) .This is fine if the recipients servers allow these posts to get through…My server for one doesn’t allow these posts to come through…Ok, Ok I guess now some of you are saying "well tuff titties to you then Wenz!"  My guess tho’ is that If ‘My’ server doesn’t allow these posts then there must be ‘many others’ who also don’t get to see these posts…"So what do you suggest then Wenz"  I hear you saying. Well I suggest all those wanting to share pictures of their work set up a ‘Yahoo Briefcase’ to upload their pictures for EVERYONE to see, the process is sooo simple even I managed it. That way we can all get to see and participate in the discussions that follow..Only seems fair don’t you think? Your comments or ideas appreciated.. Wenz I often read the group through Google and you can’t see binaries there either. Also, as the group does not contain the word "binaries" in the title, they shouldn’t be posted. Every web server administrator has the ability to block any groups which take up more than a certain amount of bandwidth so, by posting more and more pictures, less and less web servers will carry the group. The best way of getting your work seen without affecting the group’s circulation is to upload it to your own webspace and post a direct link to it instead. That also enables all those who can’t see images posted to the group anyway can then access them. Couldn’t be simpler. Grant www.granthood.co.uk www.paulsautos.plus.com — All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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I don’t think it’s that easy. I am not too HTML literate..I tried to do a web page, and it’s not all that simple. I even abandoned my web page because of it, it’s floating somewhere out in web lingo….I even forgot my own web page address. hmmmm….does that tell you something? that was a few years ago though, perhaps it’s gotten easier with software that do it automatically, but I’m really don’t want to purchase software only to do that. Then again I’m not paying someone to create and maintain a webpage for me as well. My server seems to allow binaries to come through, luckily for me. Though I can see everyone else’ point in the matter. If there are simpler ways, I’d like to hear about it. Aloha Vern – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: ntlworld News Service Newsgroups: alt.airbrush.art Yahoo groups was so easy it still took a few goes to see your first post if I remember rightly. — The Pinup Art of Paul Corfield www.paulcorfield.com Ok , It seems that some posts are sent onto this NG containing Binaries (posts containing pictures) .This is fine if the recipients servers allow these posts to get through…My server for one doesn’t allow these posts to come through…Ok, Ok I guess now some of you are saying "well tuff titties to you then Wenz!" My guess tho’ is that If ‘My’ server doesn’t allow these posts then there must be ‘many others’ who also don’t get to see these posts…"So what do you suggest then Wenz"  I hear you saying. Well I suggest all those wanting to share pictures of their work set up a ‘Yahoo Briefcase’ to upload their pictures for EVERYONE to see, the process is sooo simple even I managed it. That way we can all get to see and participate in the discussions that follow..Only seems fair don’t you think? Your comments or ideas appreciated.. Wenz I often read the group through Google and you can’t see binaries there either. Also, as the group does not contain the word "binaries" in the title, they shouldn’t be posted. Every web server administrator has the ability to block any groups which take up more than a certain amount of bandwidth so, by posting more and more pictures, less and less web servers will carry the group. The best way of getting your work seen without affecting the group’s circulation is to upload it to your own webspace and post a direct link to it instead. That also enables all those who can’t see images posted to the group anyway can then access them. Couldn’t be simpler. Grant www.granthood.co.uk www.paulsautos.plus.com — All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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I knew it! It should be…you have to upkeep your own website. thanks…I’ll yell if I need the help Aloha Vern – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: ntlworld News Service Newsgroups: alt.airbrush.art Ah Vern, Maybe airbrushing isn’t the only thing I can teach you. HTML is my second language. — The Pinup Art of Paul Corfield www.paulcorfield.com I don’t think it’s that easy. I am not too HTML literate..I tried to do a web page, and it’s not all that simple. I even abandoned my web page because of it, it’s floating somewhere out in web lingo….I even forgot my own web page address. hmmmm….does that tell you something? that was a few years ago though, perhaps it’s gotten easier with software that do it automatically, but I’m really don’t want to purchase software only to do that. Then again I’m not paying someone to create and maintain a webpage for me as well. My server seems to allow binaries to come through, luckily for me. Though I can see everyone else’ point in the matter. If there are simpler ways, I’d like to hear about it. Aloha Vern Organization: ntlworld News Service Newsgroups: alt.airbrush.art Yahoo groups was so easy it still took a few goes to see your first post if I remember rightly. — The Pinup Art of Paul Corfield www.paulcorfield.com Ok , It seems that some posts are sent onto this NG containing Binaries (posts containing pictures) .This is fine if the recipients servers allow these posts to get through…My server for one doesn’t allow these posts to come through…Ok, Ok I guess now some of you are saying "well tuff titties to you then Wenz!" My guess tho’ is that If ‘My’ server doesn’t allow these posts then there must be ‘many others’ who also don’t get to see these posts…"So what do you suggest then Wenz"  I hear you saying. Well I suggest all those wanting to share pictures of their work set up a ‘Yahoo Briefcase’ to upload their pictures for EVERYONE to see, the process is sooo simple even I managed it. That way we can all get to see and participate in the discussions that follow..Only seems fair don’t you think? Your comments or ideas appreciated.. Wenz I often read the group through Google and you can’t see binaries there either. Also, as the group does not contain the word "binaries" in the title, they shouldn’t be posted. Every web server administrator has the ability to block any groups which take up more than a certain amount of bandwidth so, by posting more and more pictures, less and less web servers will carry the group. The best way of getting your work seen without affecting the group’s circulation is to upload it to your own webspace and post a direct link to it instead. That also enables all those who can’t see images posted to the group anyway can then access them. Couldn’t be simpler. Grant www.granthood.co.uk www.paulsautos.plus.com — All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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